Q: So, if what the ‘I’ is experiencing is inclusive of other “people”, then the question I ask myself is, what is there experience?
There are no others, it is only your own Self. Different points of view from different forms that you believe are separating, but it is all one. There is no other. There is no other experience. The idea is that remaining with your Selfless Self through Mantra, you won’t form an ‘I am somebody else’, therefore if there is not an ‘I am somebody else’ there can’t be other. It is just different forms and there will be an intuitive knowing that as you are speaking, speaker and listener are one and the same. There is no other. There is just a bunch of forms with Selfless Self moving them around and ideas, beliefs and concepts that you the Selfless Self hold. It is again as we spoke about previously, the “one man show”. Here there is speaking and then, swishhhh, over hear there is listening, then again speaking and back to listening. There are no others.
Q: So, you are saying there is nobody else.
No. It is just the one, Selfless Self, there is no you. This you that you believe yourself to be is a concept that Selfless Self is seeing through, using this body instrument in form, to perform activities and such and provide the power for the forms to move around. Remaining with your Self through Mantra erases these concepts, so there won’t be an ‘I am somebody else’. You remain formlessly in your ‘You Are’, the sense of Presence, sense of “I am’ whatever you want to call it. Remain there without labeling it, without an ‘I am somebody else’ being created, due to thoughts that are identified with. No ‘I am somebody else’ these are my thoughts, my mind, my life. There can be no other, because there is not a you. You remain your Self, formlessly, spontaneously, in the formless state before the form of an idea or thought arises. Once you remain with your Selfless Self through Mantra continuously as each moment presents itself, you will observe the arising of a thought, remain with your Self, without an ‘I am somebody else’ identifying with that thought.
You are not the name that your parents gave to you. You have never done anything at all. You have used a form and gone through some things. This mind created sense of self is not true. Remaining with your Selfless Self through Mantra allows you to return to original nature. Maharaj says “refreshing your memories”. Memory is the reverse, you have none. All the memories you are holding about yourself are absolutely false. You just need to discard, discard, discard. When the attention is invited of the invisible listener, that invisible listener will intuitively see. This form on the screen of mind is not needed to perpetuate existence. Just like scenes can come and go. Just like dreams can come and go. Just like people can come and go. Beingness and world can come and go and it has no effect on the one that was there prior to beingness.
That sense of Presence. It is given the example of the musk and the deer. You are the knower of that sense of Presence using body form to know yourself in a real sense. Without this body, using this body as an instrument to know yourself. Your job, family and all these things, these are your duty that’s fine, but that is not your “purpose”. Your purpose for being is to know yourself in a real sense, using body form. Anytime there is something which is adding onto ‘I am somebody else’ remain with your Selfless Self through Mantra. It will be seen that there is no need to create an idea of a ‘somebody’ doing ‘something’. Things are just appearing and disappearing and there is no need to take care of anything with deliberate effort. In the moment, a scene comes, an action is provided spontaneously in the moment and then forgotten instantaneously. There is no one that it can hold on to anything. If there is seen that there is still this idea of a ‘somebody’ than this idea is used to Mantra and erase that idea and concept.
John Richards
Sadguru Shri Ramakant Maharaj Dakshina