You have a dream, night, after night after night, and you this character are in that dream. But it is constantly different scenarios and there is no timeline whatsoever. That’s the truth. Because your formlessness that is holding form, there is no planning. Like Maharaj has said before. There is no planning, because there is no planner. It is just the formlessness using body form in the moment, without any kind of anything. Because nothing is actually happening. There are no bodies doing anything. There is no ‘John’ that is progressing in any way. ‘John’ can have a job and do this, and do that and do this, and when this body falls, ‘John’ is no more. The consciousness so to speak, woke up from itself, consciousness has left so there is nothing. It is just ‘You’ the ‘You’ That You Are completely and totally formless and unaware of your own Self. This ‘John’ that was a kind of an addition inside the consciousness as an object in consciousness, is no more. Because the consciousness in which ‘John’ was an object is no more. So, how can ‘John’ the object be there, if the consciousness which ‘John’ was the object in, is no more. It is just your own Selfless Self, prior to beingness. Prior to any movement or any ideas or beliefs, prior to clicking with the body. Not even the ‘Just I’ because the ‘Just I’, the sense of Presence is felt inside the consciousness and the consciousness will leave You. But, You will witness this consciousness leaving You, and know.
Keith: You don’t need a plan to be there. You don’t need a plan. Just like you don’t need a plan to be in traffic.
A plan for the unborn child. Again, the child that is unborn, we are talking about its life. I think we had talked a while back about if you were dreaming about let’s say Tom. Tom went to High Scholl, he married his High School sweetheart, he decided to go to college and study to be a doctor. He was working so hard, his wife had two jobs, and he was studying to be this doctor, and you wake up. Is it fair to Tom that he never became a doctor? Was all of that studying that he did, was it really Tom that was putting forth 100% effort to try and get a degree? What about his poor wife that was working two jobs? That is really unfair that you woke up and Tom never got to realize his dream of being a doctor. It’s the same. Formlessness using form, that has no concern about the form whatsoever. It is just moving around. For You, nothing is happening. You know yourself as this ‘Just I’ this sense of Presence, in and through body form. And when body form is no more, You will not know yourself. That is why Maharaj says, “The body is a Golden opportunity”. This human body is an opportunity for You to know yourself in a real sense. That formlessness, that ‘Just I’, ‘Just I’ without anything. So that when the body is going, You can witness all of everything. Everything that rolled up, rolls back, You are the witness of this. Then that’s it. The You remain with Your Selfless Self which is the thing, so to speak. You that attached to the body and then said ‘I’. Will unattach from the body, no longer saying ‘I’. But if you attach, and you unattach, then You Are. In between there was an appearance of something, but You Are the nothing, That is everything.
Kathleen: It seems like the knowledge of who you really are. Really only helps you in this incarnation. Because whether you do or not, when the body is gone then it doesn’t matter what you have realized. Right, because you’re not there, there is nothing. So, the only advantage it does is for this incarnation. Because in the incarnation it knows. So, therefore it is able to observe everything and not get, not taking the touch. But once the body is gone, then everything is gone.
But it will be a very happy moment when you know that You’re leaving and returning to Your no knowing state.
Andrew: Also, in the video you sent today I know Maharaj was saying “The importance of this knowledge is knowing who You are now to make life tolerable.”
Yes.
Kathleen: That is what I was thinking it is really useful in this incarnation, in this life, because after this body drops, then you go back to nothingness. Then it doesn’t matter what you know or don’t know.
True. But the fear of death that’s the thing. Like Maharaj says the fear that ‘I am dying’. This ‘I am dying’ idea should not be impressed in mind as you are in that state. This can’t even be thought about. When You know yourself in a real sense, like you just said, ok. ‘I am the formlessness that is using form that is returning to the formlessness. Because I never actually was in form, the form was inside myself and I am still there, but the form is no longer inside myself.’
Kathleen: Unless you are attached to the form.
That’s the thing. If You are believing ‘I am dying’. Then like Maharaj says, “Death will be very terrifying and scary for you.” You will start to relive all the things that you did, and you will want to hold on. Just like Maharaj uses the example of the ants. You pour water and the ant freaks out and runs away. Because Presence inside the ant, believing that it is that ant body and that it will be finished. Wants to survive no matter what. Once You have understood, kind of unwound yourself and are no longer impressed with these illusory concepts. ‘Just I’, ‘Just I’, just the sense of Presence then You have detached from the beingness. Because You are prior to beingness. The beingness is the ‘I am’, ‘I am somebody’ and this. So, You remain prior to beingness. Prior to beingness there was no thought of anything, no good thing, bad thing, no experience, no experiencer, no nothing. So, in this body form things are going to occur. Good things are going to happen to this body, bad things are going to happen to this body. This body will have other bodies that are relatives to this body that will die, that will suffer, that will have sickness, whatever. But You are to remain unconcerned with the world because you are formless, and all of this is appearing on Your Spontaneous Presence. Therefore, there is no need to take the touch, no need to grab the mind and hold on with dear life. Literally like ‘Oh my God, I do not want to die, oh help me.’ This is not good, because it is not the Reality.
John Richards
Ramakant Maharaj Dakshina